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"You Make it Work or You Find Something Else to Do"

Now in her 80s, Frances Williams is still acting -- long after many of her peers have retired. She has a storied career in theater and film, and helped found nine theater companies. An advocate for meaningful roles for African Americans, she now costars in the television show Frank's Place.

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Other segments from the episode on July 22, 1988

Fresh Air with Terry Gross, July 22, 1988: Interview with Robert Thurman; Interview with Bonnie Koloc and Howard Levy; Interview with Frances Williams; Commentary on bad memories.

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