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43:33

America's first AI-fueled war is unfolding right now in Iran. This is how we got here

Bloomberg journalist Katrina Manson discusses the Pentagon's secretive campaign to build America's AI warfare capabilities and the obsessive Marine colonel behind it. Her new book is Project Maven.

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Michael Pollan says AI may 'think' — but it will never be conscious

Michael Pollan. His new book, titled "A World Appears: A Journey Into Consciousness," is about different ways neurobiologists and engineers are trying to figure out the source of consciousness and whether AI can ever achieve it. Pollan also writes about how Zen Buddhists, writers and philosophers approach the idea of self and consciousness.

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52:30

Do the people building the AI chatbot Claude understand what they've created?

Anthropic is one of the world's most powerful AI firms. New Yorker writer Gideon Lewis-Kraus explains how they're trying to make chatbot Claude more ethical, and the implications of AI's widening use.

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Filmmaker Guillermo del Toro says 'I'd rather die' than use generative AI

Del Toro's Frankenstein, which reimagines Mary Shelley's 1818 Gothic novel, has been nominated for nine Academy Awards, including Best Picture. Originally broadcast Oct. 23, 2025.

Interview
42:45

'AI Valley' author worries there's 'so much power in the hands of few people'

Gary Rivlin is here to help us understand all these issues and developments. Rivlin has worked for The New York Times among other publications and published 10 previous books. In 2017, he shared a Pulitzer Prize for reporting on the Panama Papers. His new book is "AI Valley: Microsoft, Google, And The Trillion-Dollar Race To Cash In On Artificial Intelligence."

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05:55

A Man And His Machine, Finding Out What Love Is

The film Her, written and directed by Spike Jonze (Being John Malkovich), follows a lonely man who falls in love with a computer operating system. Critic David Edelstein says it's the best film of the year by far. (Recommended)

Review
21:16

Venter 'Decodes' Genome Project Controversy

In his effort to decode the human genome, scientist J. Craig Venter volunteered his own DNA to be analyzed and made publicly available. His autobiography, A Life Decoded — My Genome: My Life details his side of the complicated and bureaucratic race to sequence the human genome.

Venter's early work to decode the genome through private research company Celera Genomics earned him both praise and criticism. His team competed with the National Institutes of Health publicly funded effort, the Human Genome Project.

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