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A new book explains what the color blue can teach us about Black history

scholar Imani Perry about her new book, "Black In Blues." It's a fascinating meditation on the color blue and how it is intertwined with the concept of Blackness from the dying of indigo cloths in West Africa to Louis Armstrong's question, what did I do to be so black-and-blue? Imani Perry is the National Book Award-winning author of "South To America," as well as several other books including "Looking For Lorraine," which is a biography of the playwright Lorraine Hansberry, and "Breathe: A Letter To My Sons."

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With 'Origin,' Ava DuVernay illuminates America's racial caste system

Director Ava DuVernay's new film "Origin" is based on the bestselling book "Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents" by Isabel Wilkerson. In the film, DuVernay makes Wilkerson, played by Aunjanue Ellis-Taylor, the center of her own story as she explores how understanding the caste system can deepen our understanding of what Black people experience in America.

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