Terry Gross

my guest is Ethan Hawke. And among the new things he's starring in are "Blue Moon," about lyricist Larry Hart, and the Sterlin Harjo take on film noir, which is called "The Lowdown."

The New Yorker's Antonia Hitchens describes how Loomer went from a conspiracy theorist to a close ally of Trump who's gotten government officials she claims are disloyal to the president fired.

Our guest today is Marion Nestle, author of "What To Eat Now" and one of the most influential voices in food politics.