Terry Gross

Zanny Minton Beddoes, editor-in-chief of The Economist. We're talking about Trump's tariffs and their impact on everything from the global economy to our daily lives.

Chris Whipple. He's author of the new book "Uncharted: How Trump Beat Biden, Harris, And The Odds In The Wildest Campaign In History."

We celebrate the NBC mockumentary by listening back to archival interviews with Carell, Gervais, Jenna Fischer, John Krasinski, Rainn Wilson, Mindy Kaling and executive producer Greg Daniels.